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Thu, Apr 30th, 2020 01:44:23 PM
Topic: dodds's "Karapinar"

This morning a long time reader emailed us a photo and the discussion that appears in the warp and weft faRcebook group concerning a white ground "Karapinar" rug belonging to dennis dodds.

Our reader asked if we knew it and have written anything about it.

The answer to both queries is yes.

Here is what we wrote and published back on Feb. 12, 2006 about it and the ruse we played on dodds pretending to be a wealthy buyer. He fell into it and tried to do his usual seriously over-dating and over-charging routine.

(ed. note: What follows above the dotted line is the email exchange between dodds and a prospective client of his who has allowed us to publish this email. We have already published another here in this topic area and this should be read after that one.

The > marks appear before what the client wrote.

We have added these > to facilitate understanding who said what and to differentiate his questions from doddss replies.

Again this email exchanged took place during December 2004)

Hello ********:

I'm pleased to have your prompt response and continued interest. Yes, each of these is unique and a prime example of its type. Let me address your queries:

The first piece, the longer carpet with that astounding pattern is, of course, the type of weaving I had in mind when I wrote to you last. It surely appears to be quite old and exceptionally beautiful.

>I can see there are a number of damaged areas in the right border where the pile has been somehow destroyed but overall it appears to have survived the ravages of time quite well. Are there any areas of repair or repiling?

Yes, there is restoration, mostly around the edges and one section of the border, as these areas have been the most exposed during its 350 years. The carpet I sold to Los Angeles also had areas of restoration. The overall pile of the carpet is generally intact and rather substantial, as I think you can perceive from the texture in the close-up details, with two small reweaves in the field -- one about 2x2 inches and the other 1x2 inches.

> Are the colours strong and vibrant or are they somewhat pale? It is so hard to tell from a picture, especially a digital one sent over the Internet.

I would say that the digital images are indeed more pale than they are in person. While the palette is dominated by the beige field, the other colors are stronger and more contrasting than the images portray.

>Needless to say I like it most definitely. Has it ever been published? Do you have any provenance?

The carpet was published by Dodds and Eiland, ORIENTAL RUGS FROM ATLANTIC COLLECTIONS, p. 22, pl 22, 1996, and was one of the centerpieces for the Woodmere Museum exhibition during the 8th ICOC in Philadelphia in 1996. The carpet was donated by the philanthropic Leverington family to the Philadelphia Museum of Art in the 1920s. To raise funds for conservation of the Williams and McIlhenny collection of carpets and the museum's Oriental Art collection, the museum sold the carpet in the early 80s when I was fortunate to acquire it.

The size is 3.4 x 7.4 feet.

Price: 150,000 BPS (ed. British Pounds Sterling)

> The second piece, the prayer rug, is also very captivating.

>It appears to be in quite fine condition. Is the pile low or does it retain its original height? Is there any repair or repiling?

It is in fine condition and very rare, with the white prayer arch. The original pile is short and is typical for these types of rugs from Ushak in Western Anatolia that faithfully followed models of the Ottoman court ateliers.

Overall, the pile shows very little wear. There is a restored area in one of the borders and there are minor breaks and repairs at the top and bottom. There is a small patch about 1x1 inch from a carpet of the same age, late 17th century. If you choose, these small areas could be masterfully restored.

>Do you have any provenance for it as well?

I purchased this rug in 1973 from the estate of a distinguished private collector in the Philadelphia region of Bucks County. It was published and exhibited by the highly respected Textile Museum in Washington, DC in PRAYER RUGS FROM PRIVATE COLLECTIONS, Patricia L. Fiske, p. 9, plate 3, 1974.

The size is 3.10 x 4.10 feet.

Price: 50,000 BPS


RKs comments follow:

Carpet-bagging dodds then went on offering several other pieces at equally unsupportable price levels.

Naturally the client dodds sent this email and photos to did not purchase anything from dodds, nor has he contacted dodds since these email exchanges were carried out.

Its a free country and anyone is entitled to price their goods as they like.

However, that said, there is a limit to the extent ones greed can carry sway when setting prices.

RK.com has shown other istances of how doddss proven rug sale modus operandi seems to have been unable to hold that greed in check.

Remember in 2001 he offered the LACMA rug to Dr. Smith for $135,000, and then to someone else we have heard from who told us dodds offered it in 2002 for $80,000.

How he then, in 2004, managed with a straight face to boldly quote $250,000 to the LACMAs curator, dale gluckman, who presented it to the Collectors Committee we can only ascribe to wanton unchecked greed.

As for the two museum quality rugs dodds offered the client in this email?

The first, a south central Anatolian long rug, dates in our estimation circa 1800, while dodds wildly states to the client it is "350 years old" (i.e. circa 1650).

Perhaps the field design might be called dramatic by someone like dodds who is seeking adjectives to help sell a rug, or by someone who not an expert in Early Turkish Village weaving. But, in the final analysis, we find it to be another two-dimensional, cutesy weaving like LACMA's. Surely we can not see it as important, in any sense of the word, as dodds portrayed it.

Why? Simply put because it lacks the I word iconography.

There is a pathetic absence of anything that vaguely could be called an icon here and that, more than any other reason, prevents us from agreeing with dodds or anyone else who might feel this rug is earlier than 1800. Or that it is a anything more than decorative --in our opinion it is just like the LACMA rug, far more suitable for luxury domestic floor use than hanging in a Museum or any important collection.

Besides for the fact it appears to have more restoration than dodds lets on in the email -- this something we are suggesting is possible from carefully examining a larger format photo than the one that appears here -- the border is a gross and terribly flaccid rendition of a quite rare one but it completely lacks any finesse or grace. It is a grossly meaningless overstatment and addition to the cutesy field.

By the way, the field design is copied from a small, somewhat earlier group of prayer rugs where the undulating "leaves" in the field of dodds's long rug are actually found in their extra-wide borders. Those prayer rugs are called 'island melas' in Turkey and they are quite rare, only a few are known.

Overall, wed have to call dodds's long rug an assemblage of disparate elements, a pastiche or just the product of some wishful thinking on the part of a circa 1800 Anatolian town dwelling weaver.

It has none of the power and majesty, let alone viable iconographic imagery, associated with genuinely early Turkish Village rugs.

The second piece once again presents dodds trying to silk line the sows ear.

His unsuccessful attempt to class this prayer rug as a 17th century Ushak is, in our opinion, way off the mark, as it is nothing more than a good circa 1800 Ghiordes prayer rug.

The over-designed borders, panel and niche above the mirhab swell with an ungodly abundance of highly compressed elements, most of which are poorly rendered compared to other prayer rugs of this type of which there are many.

This crowded jumble of pattern cannot help but leave a very unsatisfactory impression, surely not one an alleged 17th century prayer rug would disclose.

We could go on but to ask 150,000BPS (almost $290,000) for the long rug or 50,000BPS (almost $90,000) for the Ghiordes prayer rug is way over the top, not for the least considering both rugs have been turned down by countless collectors over the years.

Great rugs sell fast and the fact these rugs, like the LACMA rug, were shopped around by dodds for years to no takers proves one thing -- only he thinks they are something special.

They clearly are not and we believe he still has both of them, care to find out what dodds wants for them now?

Author: RK
email: [email protected]
Thu, Apr 30th, 2020 01:44:23 PM

(ed Here is a perfect example of dennis dodds in action and his foolishly claiming the following rug is a "Karapinar. It i surely not and although dodds wrote this in 2009 clearly he has learned little to nothing in the intervening decade.

RK has written convincingly about what we have called the myth of Karapinar.

In that process we have demolished the idea the village of Karapinar, in central Anatolia, was a (prosperous) weaving center prior to the later part of the 19th century.

Fact is this village, Karapinar, was, before then, nothing but a sleepy, poor backwater that could not have possibly been home to the production of the multitude of rugs now considered by most in rugDUMB to have been produced in its environs.

We suggest readers review our post the myth of Karapinar in our Best of RK topic area.

It is clear from doddss offer, shown below, that he has not read our research, which does not surprise us as dodds is a proven rug-ignorant and a prime example of what RK calls rugDUMB.

Below is that offer -- a mediocre example of a rug made in the Konya vicinity incorrectly called karapinar by mr. dodds, a proven rug-cheat and thief.

Its clear dodds has hung the karapinar appellation on this rug in the hopes of disguising its mediocrity with that dazzlingly enticing sobriquet.

Frankly nothing, even spraying painting karapinar goo-goo dust on it, could lift this rugs pedestrian qualities to even beginning collector quality, let alone the heights dodds, the fabricator, has attempted to advertise.

Heres the short sales-spiel dodds includes with his online offer of a rug RK wouldnt let our dog, Bozwell, sleep on:

Rug-idiot dodds states:

Classic Karapinar lph (ed. large pattern holbein) octagon rug with strong graphic presence, c. 1825-50, or earlier

Calling this rug a classic is nothing but a transparent ploy, worthless words meant to deceive and trick a neophyte rug collector; words no seasoned experienced one would credence, let alone open one's wallet for.

However his next breath comparison to large pattern holbein rugs of the 15th and 16th centuries is so preposterous, even a carpet-bRagging clown like dodds should realize its absurdity.

The "karapinar" he is virtually peddling has absolutely no association with earlier large pattern holbein pieces, but in dodd's greedy and twisted world of rug-salesmanship any ploy, no matter how far-reaching, is played.

Such a comparison is laughable and ludicrous. It can not help but remind RK of the now proven inflated deception, lies and hype dodds used in 2004 to pawn off the late, genre period, reproduction/revival bellini off on the Los Angeles County Art Museum's (LACMA) "collector's committee".

RK has made it perfectly clear how rugDUMBs turning its blind eyes to that fiasco and fraud has empowered doods into believing he is above critique and criticism.

Far from it really; but as time goes on and no one fingers dodds for his fraudulent actions he continues to feel immune, and goes about his devious and duplicitous modus operandi.

Witness his attempt to sell pieces like this late 19th century piece of airport-art Konya weaving as a genuine, and important "Karapinar" collectors piece.

RugDUMB seriously needs to assess its priorities, and do it post haste before dodds singlehandedly destroys any remaining credibility rug studies might have now, or might have once possessed.

From the presents sad and regrettable look of things RK would have to surmise rugDUMB and captain dodds will all go down with the listing, sinking ship of stowaway clowns and fools -- a Titanic RK has called rugDUMB for many years now.

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