We just finished watching the video again and like a good comedy act it is just as funny the second time around.
OK, maybe it's not that funny and stupid would be a better description.
But anyone who keeps mispronouncing Salor as sailor after being told enumerable times is either obstinate to the max or stupid.
We believe grogan suffers both. Same with Turk0men vs Turkmen. Come on grogan, you turko-twit, get it right would ya?
And what a turko-twit this grogan dude is.
Witness his proclamations the elem's uniqueness or the "spacious" void between the "proud" birds and the borders that surround each of the field quadrant are significant pluses.
Sorry, sailorboy, but these are both signs the weaver was inexperienced and unsure just exactly how to in the border case solve the interplay between the "proud" birds and the borders.
And in the case of the elem we suggest sailor grogan read our analysis. Not only does it disprove any thoughts the elem is noteworthy but more so it demonstrates just exactly how derivative and static the WH engsi truly is.
And as far as sailor's paean to the "lyric"al qualities his engsi possesses RK can only say perhaps we should start to call grogan tin-ear as well?
And while we could go on poking holes big enough to drive a semi-trailer through we will just mention this comparison.
Left: niche from the vertical center panel of the WH engsi; Right: niche from the vertical center panel of the Tekke engsi
Sailor grogan goes on waxing poetic about how the Salor weavers were just the best atsymmetry when he is pointing out the niche we picture above.
Well, seems captain sailor grogan either needs new glasses or he doesnt know shaky unsure weaving when it is smack dab in front of him.
The line that defines the left and right side of the niche in the WH engsi belies any thoughts the weaver knew what she was trying to do and had it under control.
Compare it with how the Tekke engsi weaver accomplished the task.
This is a perfect example of a weaving brilliance compared to weaving mediocrity.
And by the way, the fact the WH engsi has a defined niche in the vertical center panels is a another element of the set it shares with the Tekke engsi.
A vertical center panel niche is a very Tekke feature, though other groups did use it but surely not as ubiquitously.
Listening to grogans spiel it becomes patently clear he has nothing to say, is almost completely unfamiliar with what has already been written about engsi of this type and is horribly ill-equipped to add anything to it.
Yes, grogan is just an auctioneer but remember he was for 15 years or so the carpet expert at sotheby's New York headquarters, where he got his start in the auction business.
Also note he considers himself to be a carpet expert and, in fact, five or so years ago RK decided never to talk to grogan again after he brazenly told us he knows more about old rugs than we ever will.
So much for schmuck0, sailor, grogan