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(ed.The "Milestones" publication, regardless of Moshe Tabibnia's continuing belief this book is anything more than an elaborate sales catalog, is hardly a scholarly work that has advanced rug studies even an inch. RK's critiques contained in the review below makes this abundantly clear, and for that reason we decided to now move it from the Book Review section here to the best of RK Topic area. This review has been online for many years but not one word of comment has been issued by Thompson or Tabibnia in their defense. This is par for the present course oriental rug studies has taken where those in charge feel their positions, even when proven wrong, are beyond criticism. The lack of peer review and discussion remains one of, if not, the major achilles heal crippling rug studies as well as furthering public appreciation of these art works.)

( ed. In 2011 RK published this extensive review of the Milestones Tabibnia publication.

It has been viewed by many thousands of visitors and continues to capture attention.

Today we reread it in its entirety and believe doing so would also benefit readers interested in an unbiased look at a number of classical carpets said to be 'important'.

Importance, like the term beautiful, is relative; surely it is not fact. It is nothing but opinion.

While RK's well-documented appraisal, which is not opinion, provides crucial evidence to the contrary.

It proves what dr jon thompson, moshe tabibnia, that rag hali magazine and the pretentious title, "Milestones in the History of Oriental Carpets", have tried to claim for this publication is nothing but opinion, which frankly bears little in comparison to reality.

We do hope motivated readers will see for themselves, and in the process expand their own perceptions and knowledge of classical carpets.)


Milestones in the History of Carpets was published in 2006 by the Moshe Tabibnia Gallery in Milan, Italy.

The book is a lavish production big, glossy and well produced in all regards.

However it is, in the final analysis, a dealers catalog of pieces that are/were/will be for sale rather than a scholarly tome.

The text, written by dr jon thompson attempts to, as Mr Tabibnia told me in October of 2006, be controversial but thats good as the carpet world needs controversy.

RK only recently acquired a copy -- actually it was a trade with Mr Tabibnia for one of our paper-bound Anatolian Kelim books and digging into thompsons text was often hard work regardless of the salubrious writing style thompson brings.

As our readership knows RK is surely no fan, in any way mind you, of classical carpets and since thats all this book is about we resisted getting a copy.

But after being out for five years, and the opportunity to acquire one was present, we decided to go ahead and add it to our already groaning shelf of rug books.

Our readers also know we are no fan of dr jon thompson, and since we have already written enough about our past relations with him on RugKazbah.com we will not revisit that topic here and now.

RK also finds it hard to believe Mr Tabibnias purpose in publishing this book, said controversy or not, was anything more than a glorification to any and all prospective buyers of the collection it illustrates.

In keeping with this unspoken but clear as a sunshine reflected in a mirror purpose the introduction, written by Marino and Clara DallOlio, extols the value of the rugs within to prospective buyers.

In fact, their introduction is so pointed in that direction one wonders if they are going to profit from any sales along with Tabibnia.

Tongues in rugdumb have been wagging about Mr Tabibnia and his gallery for the past ten years or so both for his high profile and expensive auction buys (a number of them turn up in the Milestones book), as well as the swank and ritzy gallery he has established in Milans central district.

Those tongues have also speculated as to where the money has come from to allow Mr Tabibnia to create such a rug-palace, but since RK has no knowledge of the where and the how we will just put it down to his good fortune to have been in the right place at the right time.

But RKs intention here is not to discuss Tabibnia, his gallery or dr jon thompsons rug career, as reviewing what thompson has written is our objective.

There is no doubt thompson has an excellent command of the English language and has been, after all, at the rug game for 50 plus years.

Those two attributes should definitely allow him to produce a text that is both important and lasting.

We say should because in our opinion he fell short of either and we hope to make this clear with our review.

Basically dr jon thompson advances one major and several lesser thesis which provide for him a springboard to try and reclassify the history of certain Ottoman and Safavid carpets.

Hence the controversy Mr Tabibnia mentioned to us.

We will in the next parts of this review get down and dirty critiquing them but before we do a couple of additional comments.

Firstly we need to bemoan the sad lack of commentary and review in RugDumb and our republishing A.U. Popes 80 plus year old rant on the subject shows this is nothing new.


RK wonders how many of the ruggies who bought, or were given, the Milestones book actually read it?

Frankly, wed guess very few, but that alone is not the real reason for the silence of the lambs.

Fear, and fear of crossing the line of bogus propriety and political correctness that dominates rugdumb, is far more the answer.

Yes, of course, there is that rag hali but their self-interested and even more objective purpose to further, and never question, the status quo of those in RugDumb, who belong to the in-group, prevents anything other the predictable praise from ever appearing in their pages for what someone like a dr jon thompson or a Moshe Tabibnia might do.

So without a real audience of readers, or honest critics, someone like dr jon thompson is free to float any balloon he can blow up and never fear it being burst by any well-aimed or errant pointed object.

Perhaps the greatest accomplishment of the Milestones book is the goodly number, and their quality, of photographs of early classical rugs used to illustrate the text.

Though many have been previously illustrated, some many times over, it is still one of its good points.

RK cant help but draw analogy to the Ganzhorn compendium, as both it and the Milestones book have alot of pics with a text that, when carefully read, does raise a number of flags of well-put objection.

While we stated we are not going to discuss thompsons rug career we need to mention the following that bear witness to dr jon thompsons credibility.

In thompsons introduction to the Milestones book two sentences stood out so far RK must mention them and provide some comment.

This is the first

it has become clear to me that for people to have an opinion that is genuinely their own is a rarity.

And here is the second

In the academic world the endless rehearsal of what this or that person said on the subject in the past carries the risk of stifling fresh and independent thought. While at the same time it assists the process whereby constant repetition slowly transforms hypotheses into accepted facts

It is fine for thompson to make these claims but how does one judge him in such regards?

Years ago when he was still a Turkmen rug collector dr jon thompsons discovery of S group, and the evidence he presented to support that discovery, was a great accomplishment. In fact it made his career.

However, some years later his discovery of Imreli weavings was a huge mistake and his attempts to cover-up the error even worse.

This event would have, in any other academic or collecting universe, served to diminish if not destroy a reputation.

But in RugDumb this was not the case, and thompsons fame and reputation grew go figure.

Then soon thereafter thompson was involved in a messy affair when he and several other high profile rug-dealers gave their approval for an important American collector to purchase at considerable expense a supposed dragon-phoenix rug fragment.

the fake dragon-phoenix fragment dr jon thompson and several other rug experts claimed was genuine and counseled an important American collector to purchase

The fragment in question turned out to be an old forgery.

Then, of course, there is thompsons role in approving for purchase the late genre-period reproduction bellini carpet dennis dodds sold to the Collectors Committee of the Los Angeles County Museum of Art.

Late genre period reproduction bellini carpet dennis dodds sold to the Collectors Committee of the Los Angeles County Museum of Art in 2004 claiming it was circa 1550 and a masterpiece of its type. Three rug experts, including dr jon thompson, agreed with dodds appraisal and were instrumental in convincing the buyers of the rugs supposed historical importance.

So how would one judge dr jon thompsons track-record of opinions, and how do they stack up in reality?

RK would have to say pretty poorly.

Long ago, also in the 1980 Turkmen catalog for the Washington textile museum exhibition where the Imreli fiasco was published, dr jon thompson also presented the cloud-collar idea.

And although this one, unlike the Imreli, does have some substance, it surely does not have the all-purpose import thompson claimed in that publication, nor does it have the import he is again trying to give it by reusing it in the Milestone text.

Trying to explain the many varied and unrelated appearances of a medallion outline pattern like a cloud-collar, both in the Turkmen publication and now in Milestones , as being derived from cloud-collars, is nonsense and for dr thompson to continue to harp on this idea bodes poorly for his ability to judge his own ideas.

These ring rather hollow and one must ask: Do dr thompsons comments only apply to others and is he, himself, immune?

Apparently from the facts one would have to say yes.

One additional quote from thompson is rather telling, though surely not in the way he meant it.

In discussing the Salting group of Persian carpets thompson states:

Such was the status of Kurt Erdmann was an expert in the field of Islamic art and a pioneer in carpet studiesthat his opinions readily passed into the realm of accepted wisdom(pg.220)

Anyone who knows thompsons work could rightfully ask if his situation in carpet studies is now similar.

RugDumb is synonymous with self-importance and over-arched egos and in RKs opinion none are greater than dr jon thompsons.

OK, enough of measuring dr thompson by his own words, lets start to review what he says about the rugs Tabibnia has published.

Plate 24, Milestones

Before we get into our objections with thompsons text lets mention where we find agreement.

First is questioning the validity c14 dating provides for oriental carpets, as these statements from thompson makes clear

We now have a dating method for organic materials based on the unvarying rate of decay of the naturally occurring isotope Carbon-14 which has been verified and calibrated by tree ring dating. But this has limited usefulness in the field of carpet studies(pg 27)

Recent focus has been on Carbon-14 dating, but it is a well-known pitfall to rely on a single test especially a statistical test in matters of diagnosis(pg.223)

A second point we find agreement with thompson is the reality most carpet designs can be traced back to an original or archetypal source, and degeneration of a particular design can be ascribed to it being a later copy of an earlier one. And, the earliest examples of every type were the models for all the later examples.

RK has often discussed being able to put any Turkmen or Anatolian weaving in a continuum of similar ones, and to relatively date any example by its place in such a continuum.

We have been a proponent of this methodology for as long as we can remember, and we are glad to see dr thompson thinks likewise.

one is led to the inevitable conclusion that an imperfect version of such a design was somehow derived from an earlier perfect one.(pg.30)

And here is another of several we could cite

Thus the degree of design-decay increases in proportion to the number of copies separating a carpet from the original, and can provide an indication of its relative age. That is to say, the greater the design-decay, the younger the carpet. Using this intuitive principle, a set of carpets of similar design can be arranged in sequence according to the degree of departure from a presumed original.

The point of this digression is that so many of the earlier Turkish carpets we know do not appear to be the originals but, in light of the intuitive principle outlines, seem to be derivatives based on older models. One is therefore always looking for the most perfectly formed designs, which will be the earliest and therefore closest to the source perhaps even representing its origin.(pg.31)

The third, and regrettably last thing we could say with which we whole-heartedly agree, is the importance and beauty of Plate 24, the 2003 Brunk auction carpet.

So-called, and most erroneously in RKs opinion, Karapinar carpet from the Foy-Casper collection sold in Ashville, North Carolina at Brunk Auction Gallery in 2003

Far surpassing in grandeur and condition its nearest rival, the fragmentary Bernheimer piece, this hitherto unknown Karapinar carpet has extraordinary visual appeal and...appears to be the oldest and best example yet known of a group of carpets about which there is still much to learn.(pg.236)

Try as we might thats it for anything else thompson has written in the Milestones text with which we can honestly say we find complete agreement.

Of course, from what we have learned from our somewhat cursory studies of western Asian history, we do not find any objections with thompsons recounting of the major historical events he cites.

But when it comes to just about everything else he has written about Tabibnias carpets, besides his praise for a few of them with which wed concur (Plates One, Seven, Twelve, Fifteen, Seventeen, Eighteen, and Twenty One) and some of his analogy with ceramics, art from other media and archaeological weavings like fig. 5A, all we can say is either we have serious doubts or completely disagree.

The main thesis thompsons Milestones text advances is the following

It is generally not known that representations of carpets with octagons having a radially arranged interior pattern appear in Jalayrid painting from western Iran around 1400 (Figs 24 and 25). This is an extremely important piece of evidence and it should go a long way to restoring the importance of western Iran in the history of carpets. This is especially so since nothing of the kind is known in mainstream Timurid painting.(35)

This idea -- western Iran being the source and origin of the type of medallions seen in the earliest known Turkish, Persian and Mamuluk rugs is one thompson bases a great many of his opinions on and surely is the basis for Tabibnias controversy comment.

Here are figs 24 and 25

Left: fig 24, Right: fig 25; caption fig 24 states: The aesthetic discovers his child is safe in the cradle from a copy of Kalila wa Dimna painted by a Jalayrid artist from Tabriz or Baghdad, 1380-1400. The carpet has a large octagon with an eight-fold radial design and a Kufesque border with mitred corners. TKS, H. 362 f. 113v.; caption fig 25 states: The thief is beaten in the bedroom from a copy of Kalila wa Dimna painted by a Jalayrid artist from Tabriz or Baghdad, 1380-1400. The carpet has a large octagon with an eight-fold radial design and a Kufesque border with mitred corners. TKS, H. 362 f. 24r.

And this is footnote(35)

The actual date of the paintings in THS, H.362 is unknown and the subject of much scholarly debate. The problem here is that the paintings have been cut from and earlier manuscript and pasted into a text copied for Baysunghur in Heart in the year 1431. Opinions as to their source (Jalayrid or a Jalayrid artist working for the Timurid court) and their date (1375-1385, OKane 2003; or c.1400 Grube 1991) differs, but the paintings are of high quality and were evidently valued. Either way the occurance of octagons in(presumably western) Iran is important.

The thompson Milestone text then immediately states

These representations(the two Jalayrid paintings) make it possible to propose that the style of carpet having large octagons with radial volutes, to which the Qatar silk carpet belongs, originated in Iran and that there was an important locale of carpet weavings in western Iran in the fourteenth century producing designs that were the source of what was to become an international style in carpets

The bold emphasis is mine to highlight the fact this is thompsons main thesis in the Milestone project ie there was an international style of carpet design that originated in western Iran prior to 1400 and then spread west throughout the carpet making world.

And what a weak and poorly supported one it is.

First off the octagon rugs in the two Jalayrid paintings have no tags documenting they were actually made in western Iran. Perhaps they are Turkish or from somewhere else and imports rather than local production?

Second, and this is equally important, the fact the provenance and dating of the paintings is questionable provides little security for thompsons going out on a limb declaration.

Forget about basing his thesis in the book on them, or drumming up another phony Imreli-type controversy.

At the worst this appears a repeat of the Imreli debacle and at the best nothing but thompsons poor scholarship in floating an idea with only the flimsiest supporting documentation.

We also do not buy dr thompsons conclusion octagon carpets with Kufesque mitred corner borders are Persian and not Turkish, another point thompson uses almost ad nauseum to substantiate his comments about some early octagon carpets.

Why do we not agree?

Simply, while this feature might have been the case in the later editions of many types of octagon carpets, when it comes to the earliest of them the paucity of examples, and the lack of secure provenance, destroys any attempt to make such a blanket statement.

Another major bone of contention concerns dr thompson missing the supreme importance, and its probable dating, of what RK agrees is, in thompsons words, a remarkable fragment in the Nationalmuseum Stockholm (Fig 5A), which is probably fourteenth century.(22)

Caption in Milestones Detail of a fragment in the Nationalmuseum Stockholm, NM 39/1936; illustrated in Lamm 1985, no.4

Here is footnote 22

Lamm 1985, no.4, pg. 68. Though I have not examined it personally, it is possible to see from the photo that the shedding sequence for passing the wefts is as follows: row of knots, A,B,A: row of knots B,A,B; row of knots A,B,A ect. This rather unusual feature is typical for the so-called Seljuk carpets from Konya and Beyshehir in the Turkish and Islamic Art Museum, Istanbul, which I consider to be fourteenth-century and therefore post-Seljuk.

RK is no stranger to this fragment.

In fact we have not only seen it in person, and examined it as carefully as possible, but we have published the photo we made of it at that time on the Weaving Art Museum A New Look at Some Ancient Carpet Fragments exhibition with our comments.


Along with that photo, Plate Two in the Weaving Art Museum exhibition, we also illustrated another fragment from the Lamm collection (Plate Three), which we believe was originally from the same carpet.

Lamm fragment RK believes from the same carpet as the fragment above

It is interesting to note this second fragment has some of the main border visible and guess what?

It is Kufesque!

Detail Plate Three Weaving Art Museum A New Look at Some Ancient Carpet Fragments exhibition

We cannot give comment on dr thompsons assertion about the shedding sequence but unless jon thompson has x-ray eyes, or far better pictures than the one published in his Milestones text, we would be surprised if he is correct.

Regardless of the validity of his shedding sequence conclusion, ie this fragment is post-Seljuk and 14th century, or even if that idea is correct we stick to our position this fragment is considerably earlier than the Seljuk carpets in the Ala al-Din and Beyshehir mosques and decidedly not later.

Also it is clear the Lamm fragment is Anatolian, not Persian, and it displays what is the earliest known stars and bars type (octagonal) medallion.

These two facts stand in direct opposition to dr thompsons theory of a western Iranian origin for this and other types of interlaced medallion carpets.

They are not the only ones but lets move on and discuss some of the other thesis thompson attempts to advance in the Milestones text.

This rare and interesting example (Plate 4 Milestones) illustrates and important principle in the study of carpets that has already been mentioned. To put it simply: new patterns and styles originate at centers of artistic patronage and radiate outwards towards the cultural periphery.(pg.74)(emphasis added)

It is 100 percent clear from this quote, and others we could easily cite, thompson is a classical rug snob who foolishly believes a myth as fallacious as the emperors new clothes.

First, such a viewpoint ignores the strong possibility the inspiration for those new patterns and styles came from what thompson refers to as the cultural periphery, which is a 'hi-falutin way to describe what in the carpet world is called village and nomad land.

The fact the cities and cultural mecca, where classical carpets were designed and produced, are not nearly as old as certain villages and inhabited nomadic territories, where indigenous weaving cultures existed, presents an undeniable monkey wrench in what thompson, and others mind you, are trying to spin.

This simple fact is enough to destroy the top down theory thompson preaches.

Frankly, RK finds it bigoted and highly prejudiced to ignore, and worse to deny, the strong probability, and indications, the historic roots most genuine icon and patterns seen on pre-1750 oriental carpets originally came from that cultural periphery.

As the following shows thompson does, grudgingly, give the village and nomad weaver a modicum of credit but this is at best nothing but backhanded appreciation.

Nevertheless, at the village level and among nomads modified patterns and motifs may achieve a degree of stability which results in their preservation over relatively long periods of time with very little change.This means that the vocabulary of ornament of village and nomadic weavings, like ancient words embedded in a language, can sometimes give vivid insights into the past. The village weaver, of course, is unaware of this since she learns both her spoken language and her patterns from the people with whom she comes in contact with as a child, she has no knowledge of their history.(pg.74)(emphasis added)

Again, this is nothing but bigotry and cultural superiority and quite frankly puts thompson in a very poor light.

And, as if to prove his feelings of cultural superiority, this is the next sentence

The linguist and the carpet scholar, in contrast, have the advantage of being able to study earlier examples from the past that enable them to understand the processes of change.(pg.74)(emphasis added)

What thompson spouts is so full of holes and egocentric white man superiority it truly reeks and stinks.

To believe those village and nomad weaver were not able to see and appreciate earlier generations of weavings their clans, and perhaps others, produced is unthinkable.

It is also unfathomable to think thompson does not credit those village and nomad weavers with enough insight and intelligence to understand the process of design origination and degeneration.

RK could go on discussing the disgraceful attitude dr jon thompson obviously carries but we feel we have shined the light on it enough for now.

Another sticking point RK found in the Milestones text is the glossing over of what Turkmen weaving is all about.

The historical struggle between the Aqquyunlu(white sheep) and the Qaraquyunlu(black sheep), and the part they played various times in the struggles of warlords like Gengis Khan and his successors, Timur and his successors, and the later Ottoman and Safivid dynasties, is well documented and thompsons brief treatment of it does little to explain what, if any, types of weavings these two Turkmen groups might have had, or might have made.

RK does not believe they were much different, in relation to carpet possession and production, than the warlords and dynastic large-scale societies they served .

By this we mean they were clients who ordered weavings and not actually in any way part of the economic and cultural process that made them.

Unanswered in Milestones went the question: What did the weavings, if they had any and surely they must have, of the white and black sheep Turkmen look like?

RK does not believe they looked like the Turkmen weavings collected today but were more classical in style large medallion(s) rather than the gol-centric style.

RK also believes gol-centric weavings existed during this period (say 13th-15th century) but this type of weaving was made by the independent Turkmen tribes who lived outside the spheres, and power-zones of influence, of the Aqquyunlu and the Qaraquyunlu.

During the period thompson discusses the Aqquyunlu and the Qaraquyunlu were more sedentary/settled urbanites than nomadic, and it is very conceivable their carpets reflected this difference.

But: Who were these independent groups, and what was their influence on the development of what thompson refers to as the Turkmen style, is the great mystery the history of Turkmen pile weaving

By the way, thompson only mentions a Turkmen style but does not discuss how or what this might have looked like.

RK has no doubt there were Turkmen, read gol-centric, weavings from 13th ,14th, and 15th century but this is not the place to expand such a discussion.

Another contention we have with dr thompson, but far less important or as close to our interests, is his apparent belief in the story of the found in Tibet 14th century animal rug purchased by the Metropolitan Museum of Art in 1990.

Confronted animal rug;14th century; Turkey; Purchase Harris Brisbane Dick Fund, Joseph Pulitzer Bequest, Louis V. Bell Fund and Fletcher, Pfeiffer and Rogers Funds, 1990; Accession Number1990.61

The story, and there are several permutations, tells it was found floating in a river after it, and early other rugs, were discarded during the cleaning of an old temple.

The rug then appeared in Katmandu, passing thru several hands until it ended up in London.

RK saw the rug, and two others the Faces rug and the Kirchheim animal rug --, with a now deceased dealer, Lisbet Holmes, in London.

Basically RK does not believe for one minute these rugs came from Tibet or were discovered under the circumstances thus described.

Nor do we believe the Mets rug is 14th century or for the matter even made in Turkey.

RK believes, and has said so in private for almost 20 years, it is 16th century and an Afshar made in Iran.

Not to put this out of proportion we will end here, as, after all, thompson only briefly mentions the rug once on pg.27. But in doing so he does state

the acquisition of a carpet by the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York that is believed to have been preserved in a monastery in Tibet(10)

The footnote refers to daniel walkers, the former curator at the Met, publication about the acquisition in 1990.

We also do not accept thompsons rational for the scarcity of rugs from the 15th century

The survival of carpets from the fifteenth century has been a matter of chance, determined by the historic patterns of trade and the accidents of political history, and in part by dry conditions, such as those in Egypt, which favor the preservation of of organic archaeological material.(pg.28)

As RK sees it the paucity of 15th century, and earlier, carpets is due primarily to the fact very few were produced. This might be hard to imagine from the voluminous amount of later, ie 16th -18th century, carpets but this was, RK is sure, the case.

During those times, pre-16th century, these early carpets were far more non-secular than they eventually became, and while in some parts of the Near East, like western Turkey, there was commercial workshop carpet production, ie secular, it was not in near the volume seen in later times.


Dating carpets, be they classical, village or nomad, is at best educated guess work, regardless of the validity, or not, of a C14 analysis.

There are, however, certain parameters and clues one can rely on to provide evidence and substantiation for back-up.

However, it appears to us in the Milestones text dr thompson has ignored some pertinent factors and gone ahead and over-dated more than a few of Tabibnias carpets.

Lets look, for example, at some of those in the Ottoman section.

Plate Two, a small-pattern Holbein carpet is no doubt an early example, but not mid-fifteenth century as C14 dating and dr thompson both claim.

Detail, Plate Two, Milestones

RK would date it a century later, well into the mid-sixteenth.


Well, for starters, when it is compared to a carpet RK believes truly is mid-fifteenth century there are significant differences documenting our position.

Fig.46, Milestones; detail of a small-pattern Holbein carpet fragment in the TIEM, Istanbul, 303, RK believes mid-fifteenth century

First, and most important, is the visibly compressed articulation the field pattern has undergone in Plate Twos rendering of the iconic small-pattern Holbein design.

Any honest comparison of the smaller of the two main field patterns shows Plate Twos are not nearly as spherical and well-proportioned as Fig. 46s. This is due to vertical compression of the design (compare below the upper right medallions to see this compression).

Left: detail Plate Two showing the vertical compression as compared to Right: detail Fig. 46

The smaller medallions are not the only compressed element -- notice the octagon/stars from the interior of these medallions are equally compressed in comparison to what the weaver of Fig. 46 was able to achieve.

Compression like this is a tell-tale sign of later workmanship, but there are others.

The far more delicate, intricate and fluid interlace surrounding the larger of the small-pattern Holbein medallions, as well as the more detailed drawing of the central cruciform in those medallion, also demonstrate these tell-tale post-period qualities.

And, as the side-by-side comparison of the Kufic borders on Plate Two and Fig 46 below shows, it is quite apparent Plate Two is the later version and, again, Fig. 46 the earlier.

Left: Plate Two; Middle: Fig 46; Right: Fig 31

We do not think the TIEMs small-pattern Holbein is 14th century, and concur with thompsons calling it 15th, but how could he then believe Plate Two is its contemporary?

Here is a detail of Fig. 31 (Milestones), which is in the Museum for Islamic Art in Berlin, I 5526.

Fig. 31, Milestones; Museum for Islamic Art, Berlin

It is a large-pattern Holbein with a similar Kufic style main and a secondary border with the rosette and star double kotchaks cartouche.

This is why we included it along with the Kufic borders from Plate Two and Fig. 46 to illustrate what we feel is the archetypal, and earliest, version.

We are not surprised thompson misjudged the small-pattern Holbein (Plate Two) as being contemporary with a genuinely earlier one (Fig.46), as he and many other classical-carpet snobs frequently view nuance like those we cited as insignificant, something they surely arent.

When all else fails it is often illuminating to carefully examine borders, as their drawing and iconography, and not necessarily what appears in the field, can often provide important clues to a weavings age.

By the same token Plate Three, dated early sixteenth century in the Milestones text, is in our estimation likewise over-dated by 100 years.

Plate Three, Milestones

It also is a small-pattern Holbein but anyone who believes there is only 50 or so years between it and an archetypal example like Fig. 46 is not only dreaming, they are sleep-walking as well.

Here compression has changed the proportions of the interior of the holbein medallion, but the far more serious error is the lack of delicacy in the articulation of the interlace surround, which has now become somewhat crude and obvious the mystery of the original so well expressed in Fig. 46 lost or forgotten.

This problem is also present in the Kufic border, which shows what RK calls an early version of this borders final incarnation.

Courtesy of dr. thompson Plate Four, a charmingly degenerate version of the small-pattern Holbein design, is also the recipient of a century over-dating in the Milestones text.

Plate Four, Milestones

And although thompson hedges his bet, as the quotation below shows, we still do not agree with his rational this rug is anything but late 17th.

A carpet such as this with no known previous history is difficult to date. It has an unusual and intriguing design with archaic features. It is easy to play safe and offer a seventeenth-century date and it takes a little more courage to make it earlier: but the form of its interlaced roundels is essentially fifteenth-century and they barely appear in later carpets. An exceptional feature is the structure, which has something in common with the Konya and Beyshehir carpets that are probably fourteenth-century. A sixteenth-century date thus seems easily possible.

Well, anything is possible but what is probable, or more to the point what is obvious?

This rug, as charming or intriguing as it might be, is not sixteenth century. Just look at the main border in comparison Fig 46 and Plate Two it screams: I am not 16th.

And by the way, in his short description for Plate Four dr thompson does not devote one paragraph, sentence, or even a few words, to discuss the exceptional structural feature he cites.

Again, heres thompson talking talk but stumbling badly walking the walk.

However, RK does see eye-to-eye with thompson when he calls the Kufic main border of Plate Five, a Lotto carpet, the earliest form; however, this particular rendition displays marked vertical compression and significant loss of internal proportion.

Therefore, we cannot agree with his dating it beginning of the sixteenth-century, though a date in the late fifteenth-century is also possible

Plate Five, Milestones

RK would date it early 17th for many reasons, not only the border shortcomings.

Plate Nine, a Tintoretto"-type double niche rug, is one of probably hundreds made from the 15th to the late 18th century.

Plate Nine, Milestones

It is an interesting variant, both for its candy-cane coloration and large filigree escutcheon suspended between the central medallion and upper niche.

These features are for more interesting than archetypal, but it is the drawing in the niche that signify for RK thompson has over-dated this rug.

The two-dimensional and somewhat fuzzy character belies any possibility this rug could be late fifteenth-century or early sixteenth

The same could be said for the main border, which though competently drawn lacks the salubrious mystique archetypal 15th century Tintorettos exude and a mid-17th century date is generous enough.

Plate Ten, Milestones

Plate Ten sets up an interesting comparison, as it is, in fact, actually a Tintorotto variant down to the similar escutcheon placed under the niche.

The Milestones text offers an end of the sixteenth century date, which RK thinks is over-dating to an extreme.

Wed prefer, instead, a more conservative and probable circa 1700 guesstimate.

Again the two dimensional quality of the field pattern, the visible vertical compression the ancillary octagon/stars in the field suffer, and the lack of any abrash in the red background of the field, all point to the later dating we suggest.

Over the years RK has spent some time analyzing how the pattern seen in the wide main border developed, as we formerly owned a late 18th century Anatolian village rug with a similar one.

We came to the conclusion this border is a very abbreviated version of the far more involved cloud-band on Plate 9.

Notice the minor element placed between each group of four S has been lifted from Plate Nines border, and, in fact, the curvilinear S motif and their perfect placement are actually a simplistic attempt to recreate the cloudbands from Plate Nine.

Left: border element Plate 9, Milestones; Right: border element, Plate 10, Milestones

This might, on first take, appear far-out but when you let your eyes relax on each group of those S motif, which are exactly and uniformly repeated in each group of four, they simulate the movement those cloudbands impart to the borders overall design.

The lappets in both end borders thompson says are probably the relic of a style fashionable in medieval times and preserved in rural communities.

This is laughable hogwash when thompson offers not one iota of evidence to support such a contention.

And besides didnt thompson place himself on record, as we quoted this earlier, believing village weavers were too ignorant of the history of their design vocabularies to know their histories? If so, then, how could such a design remain potent for such a long period?

Let RK set dr thompson straight as the probable history of this symbol, and unless he knows what we know and for some reason does not want to mention it we must again say his statement cannot be anything but hogwash.

Archaic long-stitch embroidery, RK collection

We have published this embroidery several times, both on RugKazbah.com and on the Weaving Art Museum website, where we have stated our opinion the large medallion represents some type of astrological map or perhaps a calendar.

But no interpretation is needed to see the similarity the detail below has with the Plate Tens lappets

Left: detail long-stitch embroidery, RK Collection; Right: detail Plate Ten Milestones

This icon then, we surmise, shows up in later Turkmen weavings as a primary main border element.

Many long years ago RK coined the phrase bat border to describe this infrequently seen Turkmen main border.

Here are some examples

Bat border found on certain Yomud chuval

None of these are from an archetypal chuval and perhaps one day when one does appear the question as to whether or not this icon originated in Anatolia, Turkmeistan or elsewhere will have to remain unanswered.

We say elsewhere because at this point we are not so sure, as we formerly were, the long stitch embroidery is trans-Caucasisan or “Armenian.

Plate Eleven, Milestones

Plate Eleven is an interesting rug that reminds RK of several other variants of the type.We have taken the liberty of illustrating it upside-down and not the way it appears in the Milestones catalog because we believe it is a prayer rug.

This becomes clear when it is viewed as we have presented it.

The idea of the implied mirhab is one RK has championed for a number of years and while we agree it is a toss-up with a weaving like Plate 11 we do believe our perspective is correct.

But regardless of whether or not it is a prayer rug, dating it earlier sixteenth century as thompson did is no toss-up it is incorrect.

This rugs use of ornaments that never appear in 16th century rugs and its borders, which are also unknown from that period, discount any possibility it could be that early.

RK would propose a mid-seventeenth century date.

Detail, Large pattern Holbein carpet, Plate One, Milestones

Unlike any other time in the western world's history of oriental carpet appreciation the post-1990 era has not generated the number of top oriental carpet dealers and scholars seen in former times.

Presently Moshe Tabibnia is the leading dealer and dr jon thompson is the leading scholar.

RK might rightfully suggest both have inherited these mantles without much competition, but that discussion is well outside the confines of this review.

We likewise feel our critique of thompsons text makes clear our somewhat depreciatory feelings, both personal and professional, for him and his position in oriental carpet studies are justified.

They also make clear thompson is surely no carpet-god beyond reproach or criticism actually far from it, as we believe we have demonstrated here and elsewhere.

As for Mr Tabibnia and his quest to, as he states in his Milestones forward, begin an intensive search for the best examples?

Surely by normal standards Tabibnia has been successful but how successful has he been weighing his efforts against the imposing title of this book: Milestones in the History of Carpets?

RK would have to honestly say not very, as in our estimation only Plate One, the large pattern Holbein purchased in 2002 at the Finearte auction and Plate 24, the so-called, and incorrectly as we have proven, Karapinar carpet purchased in 2003 at the Brunk auction could be considered veritable milestones.

There are surely some other pretenders in his catalog but pretenders are just that, not the real thing.

The dictionary defines milestone as a significant event in history, and while publishing this book might be that for Mr Tabibnia and his gallery, it surely is not that for the larger world of oriental carpet studies.

Had Tabibnia followed the old adage less is more it surely might have been, but as it stands there is a lot of filler of less than milestone proportion, both text-wise and examples illustrated, between its blue and gold covers.

There is also no doubt RK is a hard taskmaster, but the whip we crack at others we surely have proven we are not afraid to turn on ourself.

So, please understand, while we respect Tabibnia and thompsons efforts we do not believe they are of milestone proportions, something the title would lead a reader to expect.

Perhaps we are wrong, but the lack of review it has so far engendered cannot be interpreted as implying we are.

Rather, this should be seen as part and parcel of the epidemic of silence inherent in oriental rug studies today.

Something RK believes must be remedied before the ever hoped wider appreciation for oriental carpets will materialize.

Soon after we posted the conclusions to our Milestones review, a frequent reader emailed us and inquired if we had ever read the review alan marcuson had published about the Milestones exhibition in that rag hali and on his website.

We emailed back that yes we knew of it and had read it at the time but had forgotten about it while we were writing the Milestones review.

After re-reading marcsons saccharine sweet and glowingly brown-nosed commentary we were, of course, reminded how those in RugDumb will never say anything critical of those who are high up in its hierarchy.

Even someone like an alan marcuson, who through unbridled hubris, greed and stupidity finally self-immolated, burning his rug-career to a crisp in the fireball that was www.cloudband.com.

The review our reader re-alerted us to was published in 2006 and, below we quote and include our comments for a few of the gems mr marcuson scribbled.

Glorious Survivors

As I walked around the gallery it had the aspect of being on pilgrimage to a shrine, to pay homage to glorious survivors from the distant past. It was thrilling to see pieces normally only found in a museum. This is better than a museum, You can touch them, said Louise Mackie, Curator of Textiles and Islamic Art at The Cleveland Museum with a wry smile. But only with the back of your fingers which dont have sweat glands, Dr. Jon Thompson reminded us.

Clearly, marcuson has never made a pilgrimage to anywhere other than the imaginary shrine where he believes, he and his disaster-filled rug career, belong.

Yesshhh, we, too, visited Moshe Tabibnias gallery in 2006 when the exhibition was up, though not during the opening-night mr marcuson described. And, while we again say we respect Tabibnias Milestone efforts, they surely cannot in any real sense be described as creating a shrine on via Brera in Milan.

And whereof can anyone, even a rug-sycophant like marcuson, cite and quote louise mackie, who it must be remembered was one of the three rug-idiots who approved the purchase of the dennis dodds bogus-bellini rug for the Los Angeles County Museum of Art, saying Tabibnias gallery was better than a museum?

And speaking of dr jon thompsons sweat-glands remark

Oh well: Then theres

The one small disappointment of the evening was that the catalogue of the collection was not ready for the shows opening and there was only a single digitally produced sample available. More of a monograph than a simple catalogue, it includes an in-depth study of the collection by Jon Thompson. It is quite some time since we have seen Thompson in print in a sustained discussion about carpets and having read a fair portion of his excellent text, I am sure it will provide rugdom with much to discuss and digest.

Well, marcuson, you hyperbolist ,it has been five years since the Milestones catalog and your review have been out and where, might RK ask, has this much to be discussed and digested action occurred?

Again, RK can only point to the imaginary place somewhere under your hairline, huh?

The exhibition is a magnificent triumph of a show, with some 30 rugs, from the 15th to the 17th centuries, from Anatolia, Syria, Egypt, Persia, the Caucasus (perhaps), India and China. I cannot overemphasise(sic) the consistently high quality of the pieces in the exhibition. Not a poor choice among them. Not all were to my particular taste

Sure, sure, judged by normal standards of rug-dealer exhibitions the Milestones collection might be called a magnificent triumph but RK is again reminded of what a milestone actually is and finds marcusons glowing praise considerably OTT, ie over-the-top, overblown and overdone.

RK will agree there is not a poor choice among them, especially if the use of poor has any correlation with the prices Mr Tabibnia expects to receive for allowing any of his magnificent 30 to leave his gallery stash.

And, please dear readers, do not think we ever implied there was a poor choice among them get it straight, our position is a number of examples are far less than milestone importance and quality.

We agree with marcuson the Brunk/Foy-Casper carpet(Plate 26) is a delicious synthesis of Ottoman and Anatolian village rug production. But we do not buy his referring to the large-pattern Holbein (Plate 1) as Its like the monolith in Kubricks, 2001: A Space Odyssey.

Frankly, wed prefer to own the Berlin Museum example, which is in our opinion a far more important and interesting weaving.

But likes are subjective and mr marcuson is surely entitled to his opinions, even when he presents them as gospel from his mouth to Gods ears.

In that vein rings the final line in marcusons closing salvo in discussing the Milestones show

It was one of those key moments, a milestone no less, that changes a field forever

Oh yeah And, please mr marcuson or anyone else, clue RK in on how the rug collecting field has been changedor has RK missed it after having been sequestered in that proverbial cave in Afghanistan these past five years with Osama you know who?

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